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I would be very careful if you do any night riding as it is almost impossible to see you side on with no reflectors.Just a heads up as it might also be illegal.

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Looks good. Don't worry about the reflectors.

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Yea the first thing I have done to both bikes that I have owned is stripped the reflectors off of them, Like the Mighty Sarris :lol: once said, "reflectors are for bicycles".

At night, when you come up on a car, do you see reflectors or lights? I think if you are relying on two tiny reflectors to save your life at night you are already S.O.L.

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I've always said that reflectors and stickers are for little boys. I outgrew those 45+ years ago. Plus they look like shit.

If you're relying on reflectors, like MM said, you're SOL.

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[quote=musi[quote]c man]

Yea the first thing I have done to both bikes that I have owned is stripped the reflectors off of them, Like the Mighty Sarris :lol: once said, "reflectors are for bicycles".

'' At night, when you come up on a car, do you see reflectors or lights? I think if you are relying on two tiny reflectors to save your life at night you are already S.O.L.[/quote:wau4ijxn]'
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When I come up on a car side I see both.If I come up on your bike side on what do I see? "NOTHING"!!

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If you can't see me when your headlights are shining right on me (which is the same way you would see my reflectors) just because I don't have those little cheap piece of shit reflectors on my bike, then you might want to get your eyes checked.

But don't get me wrong, the right kind of reflectors/reflective tape, put in the right places on your bike and in large amounts, could help you be seen a lot. What I am saying is, those little pieces of crap they throw on a motorcycle just so the federal government will say that it is safe to sell to you, ain't gonna help me enough to be worth having to look at the ugly ass things.

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Point taken.When you explain your point I agree with you.I meant they were better than nothing at all.

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Of course they are.
If you are worried about "having to look at ugly ass reflectors", then you own a bike for the wrong reasons......in my opinion. Or maybe you are just anal in general......????? :poke2:
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A bit of a paranoid when it comes to being seen.

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I'm not the one running with out reflectors,that was my point.I didn't like the round ones so I changed to "HARLEY" style on the forks.I disagree with running without some reflective material of some kind on the sides as some have stated.

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Not relying on them.Not doing away with them either.I would rather be a little boy than a dead little boy.Hard enough to be seen.

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Even "Nanny State" England doesn't make you fit reflectors, & they try to pass as many stupid laws as they can.

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We are not forced to use reflectors,I choose to use them.

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I on the other hand do a lot of night riding.When I put my saddle bags on I moved the reflectors up above the bags.
If I did not ride at night I would remove them.

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Bad move - VERY bad move - It's not there to protect the engine as much as protecting YOU. (I don't know why you don't call them "crash bars" like we do in England) This is the umpteenth time I've mentioned it, but, last year when I got sideswiped by a 4 x 4, & the bike went over, the bars were the ONLY thing that stopped my leg being squashed under the bike, & being badly burned by the engine.

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Ah yes. Everyone says that the Suzuki bars are useless. Mine are the Spanish bars, SPAAN, & they are ace. :)

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Ah, yes. There's the blanket statement we were all waiting for.

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I know. While I quoted your post, the "you" did not mean you personally. It was aimed at the person who made the "ugly ass reflectors" comment.

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[quote=patrick_777]Ah, yes. There's the blanket statement we were all waiting for.[/quote:3nbtirw0]

[Ignored]......least we let "someone" turn yet another healthy discusssion into an agruement.

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Kraznos.......what the hell ??
How come you seem to be deleting all your posts about an hour after posting them ???

After someone has replied, it is captured in the reply anyway.......then it just looks wierd.

Looks to me like you input is thoughtful and reasonable; what's the problem ?? :??:

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[quote=Easy Rider][quote="patrick_777":2sehh37t]Ah, yes. There's the blanket statement we were all waiting for.[/quote:2sehh37t]

[Ignored]......least we let "someone" turn yet another healthy discusssion into an agruement.[/quote:2sehh37t]
How about we all agree to ride with or without reflectors day or night on our own bikes and leave it at that. I am definitely from the "be seen" camp but I won't tell anyone else they must do this or that. I will show what our bikes look like but that is our choice. We all get to make a choice.

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But if the rest of us can't comment on that choice........it's no fun at all. :poke2: :biggrin:

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Never said that,thats not my quote.I have never owned a set of engine guards.

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Alan, as you are probably aware, folks in the US are more than a little eager to sue in court over some ridiculous things. Several years ago some of the manufacturers got sued for calling them crash bars here and regardless of whether they lost that suit or not, they decided to change the designation to "Engine Guards" to avoid any implication that they would protect the rider in a crash. That, of course, does not mean they won't or can't or whatever, help protect you, only that the manufacturers here decided that if they didn't designate them in a way that might be construed to imply that they would protect the rider, they have less chance of getting sued by someone who had them and got injured in an accident anyway. The most they might be liable for as Engine guards would be the cost of an engine, but an injured person could end up costing them millions. Thus, the name change in the states.

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[quote=Easy Rider]But if the rest of us can't comment on that choice........it's no fun at all. :poke2: :biggrin:[/quote:37vh8sy2]
Feel free to make any comment you want. I may not like it but that is also my choice. Right now I choose to pour me another coffee and continue reading and commenting. Been a good day here and I'm smiling. :) :)

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I apologise unreservedly (grovel, grovel) That must have been me getting quotes within quotes within quotes, mixed up. Of course it should have been attributed to dear, departed, thin skinned, kraznos. :bow:

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No problem.thanks

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I believe he deleted all his posts after he posted some updated pictures of his bike with new white handlebars....there were some negative and most likely hurtful comments made about his choice of white grips.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Wasn't it one of your presidents that said "If you can't stand the heat, keep out of the kitchen"? :tongue:

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Colored h/b's? Are'nt they for m/x bikes?

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The bars were ,actually, black, & lower than the factory fitted bars. While I feel that they would have been too low to give me a comfortable riding position, I did like the idea of colour coding. It's just the grips (IMO) that were a joke. :roll: (They really DID look like something off my daughter's first tricycle) :cry:

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Listen, Alan, I don't think it's funny at all.

I tend to be a little harsh on newbies sometimes but I think you have crossed the line this time with an insult thinly veiled as sarchasm.

Even THAT wouldn't be so bad.......if you recognized your mistake and maybe appologized.......but you don't and defend your bad conduct and actually seem to take some perverse pleasure in upsetting somebody.

I don't think it is nice or cute or funny. In this case, you may have run off a new member who seemed like a perfectly nice, well behaved rider. Bad form, sir. VERY bad form.

Now, having said that..........feel free to take all the shots at ME that you want.......and probably the other "old timers" too.....'cause we can take it and we know how you "are".......and the other way around too.

The same rule of conduct does not apply to newcomers, however, who have not yet indicted how thick their skin may or may not be.

Charging into the forum as a newbie and acting like a total ass is one thing but being nice and polite only to have someone make fun of you or your bike right out of the starting gate is QUITE another matter.

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Well, I do!!!!!!!!!!! :)

And YOU are the LAST person I need to tell ME about being nice to newbies !!! I CLEARLY recall you driving newbies off the site, & while I didn't do this intentionally, I still tried to make my comment in a humorous fashion, so get off your high horse , & don't come mister innocent nice guy with me.

I was looking for "the finger|" in the smilies, but it appears to have been deleted, asshole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

Hey Patrick, can we get the smiley finger icon back? It's kinda useful sometimes.

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Just to pick sides here, I agree with Easy Rider 100%.

*heart attack*

Sarris, I didn't know it went anywhere. Maybe Dupo removed it.

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Pretty much the response I expected, given your attitude lately.

Note:
The purpose of this forum is to support GZ riders, not to belittle them.
He did nothing to deserve the treatment he got.