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gsxr750dude33 07-24-2009 01:23 PM

carb runing lean
 
i have a 2000 gz250 and it is runing lean and cant find the air fuel screw can anyone help me

Easy Rider 07-24-2009 02:36 PM

Re: carb runing lean
 
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Originally Posted by gsxr750dude33
i have a 2000 gz250 and it is runing lean and cant find the air fuel screw can anyone help me

It's on the bottom, covered with a metal "plug".
A downloadable service manual is available on here.

What leads you to believe it is lean? Even if you get to the idle mixture screw, it doesn't have much range of adjustment. Does it have a stock air filter on it? That is an important part of the mixture setting.

gsxr750dude33 07-24-2009 10:43 PM

Re: carb runing lean
 
i know by the way it runs and yes it still has a stock filter but i made a new ram air intake for it and i just didnt feel like just turnin screws

Easy Rider 07-25-2009 10:16 AM

Re: carb runing lean
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gsxr750dude33
i know by the way it runs and yes it still has a stock filter but i made a new ram air intake for it and i just didnt feel like just turnin screws

Maybe I should bow out of this discussion because I am about to say something that might be construed as unkind:

If you can tell by the way an engine RUNS that it is a lean mixture (versus several other things that might make it run rough), then you might have a promising career as a mechanic !! :roll:

Unlike most air filters, on the GZ, the air comes into the middle of the filter and the outside of the filter and the whole air box has a slight vacume because of the filter restriction. If you have done anything to make an air leak in the air box, you need to seal that back up because it is letting in unfiltered air. That includes the plug on the bottom of the air box drain hose.

If anything you have done FORCES more air through the filter, then you need to see the threads on here about doing a jetting and needle change and idle mixture adjustment. Like it's name, the idle mixture adjustment will only have a noticeable effect at or near idle speed. Above that, other things come into play. At what engine speeds do you notice the problem ??

gsxr750dude33 07-25-2009 06:22 PM

Re: carb runing lean
 
Its not at what speed but at high rpm and i am good with engines but better with cars. This is one of the first bikes i have worked on and the first 4 stroke. I have worked on more 2 strokes so you can see why im askin for help.

Easy Rider 07-25-2009 06:31 PM

Re: carb runing lean
 
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Originally Posted by gsxr750dude33
Its not at what speed but at high rpm

I SAID "engine speed" which is the same as RPM.
I quit.

gsxr750dude33 07-25-2009 11:14 PM

Re: carb runing lean
 
sorry i missed engine i just saw speed

cnorman70 08-29-2009 11:48 PM

Re: carb runing lean
 
[quote="Easy Rider"][quote="gsxr750dude33"] That includes the plug on the bottom of the air box drain hose.quote]

What is the air box drain hose. I noticed, for the first time this afternoon, a small, narrow black hose running from "something" (can't remember now what it's attached to and will try to post pics another time) just under the seat and just hangs down and the other end is not attached to anything.

Can anyone tell me that might be? LIke I said, I'll try and post pics tomorrow. They are on my phone and I need to transfer them to a computer I can save them on first.

alantf 08-30-2009 05:16 AM

Re: carb runing lean
 
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Originally Posted by cnorman70
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Originally Posted by Easy Rider
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Originally Posted by gsxr750dude33
That includes the plug on the bottom of the air box drain hose.quote]

What is the air box drain hose. I noticed, for the first time this afternoon, a small, narrow black hose running from "something" (can't remember now what it's attached to and will try to post pics another time) just under the seat and just hangs down and the other end is not attached to anything.

Can anyone tell me that might be? LIke I said, I'll try and post pics tomorrow. They are on my phone and I need to transfer them to a computer I can save them on first.



Yes, thats the drain hose. It doesn't attach to anything at the bottom, because that's just what it is, a DRAIN HOSE. It should have a plug in the bottom end, to seal it & keep the vacuum in the air filter, that easy mentioned. If you haven't done so before, remove the plug & drain off any gunge that may have accumulated in the pipe. (the pipe's there to collect any gunge!) Then replace the plug. If the plug is missing, that means that the partial vacuum is missing from the air filter, & that could be your problem.

The hose hangs down from "just under the seat" because that's where the air filter is! :whistle:

cnorman70 08-30-2009 01:28 PM

Re: carb runing lean
 
alantf,

Are you saying there should be something at the "bottom" of the hose? There is a clamp up by the air filter, holding it in place, i presume...but nothing at the end of the hose.

Would i need to call my suzuki dealer to get this plug? or "create" one? I guess if there's no plug on it, it may just be draining into oblivion?!?!

Thanks for the help!!

Here's the pics I took...
(I have no plug at the bottom of the hose)


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