[marzzy]

If I don not have the socket exactly "right on" it will no torgue at all...just slip off right away. I like the "offset ratchet except that it is 1/4". I think I will stop by at a not so local honda/susuki dealership and speak with someone in the service department....I like the idea of ordering a new oil plug!!!! I am eventhinking about ordering the whole thing.....(((oil pan /bolt)) then I would have everything on hand for them.
Everyone of you has been great!