[cayuse]

I'm with WW. I have an Icon mesh jacket with zip in liner, and a large rain jacket that easily fits over the mesh. This afternoon in 80+F temps the liner was out and I was cool. Tonight, for the ride up in the hills (60F) I just pulled on the liner under the jacket and it was perfect. For foggy cool morning commutes when it gets down to ~40F I pull on the rain jacket over everything and I'm toasty.