Hello from South Texas

[mole2]

Welcome to the forum from South Carolina.

Originally Posted by Jvacustoms

The main error that I see with riders is the fact that they don't ease the clutch out they just let go slamming the fast moving clutch to the slow engine speed and get jolted forward in a rude manner

Yup....use the slip zone to start the slowing and let the clutch out easy. I don't brake until I have to in order to come to a stop. I will use downshifting and brakes in some situations but if I have the room I'll downshift all the way and then brake to a stop.

To GZ Rider - you really should check out the MSF BRC (Motorcycle Safety Foundation Basic Rider Course). It's one of the best investments in your safety you can make. You'll find you have some bad habits and correct them and build good habits. In the grand scheme of things it's really not much money and you may get a discount on your motorcycle insurance.

[Gz Rider]

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[Water Warrior 2]

Don't argue. Most rider training courses are based on the writings and experience of David Hough. He is a tough act to follow.

[Gz Rider]

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[Water Warrior 2]

[quote=Gz Rider]

Originally Posted by "Water Warrior":1iyrdzc1

Don't argue. Most rider training courses are based on the writings and experience of David Hough. He is a tough act to follow.

I won't do things that don't make sense to me. If it cannot be explained to me I start to wonder what's going on. I read the books and that's more than many do. A friend of mine took the beginning and adanvced courses years ago. He wrecked two months after the advanced. On the other hand I am completely self taught with no problems in three years. What does that prove? Nothing. Just saying.[/quote:1iyrdzc1]
I won't try to find fault with your logic. I also was self taught and rode for close to 50 years before taking a good riding course. No crashes or mishaps on the street in all that time. After the course I am a safer, more comfortable, confident rider with a lot of better safer habits to rely on. My bike is a lot easier to ride due to getting rid of bad habits that were always waiting to bite me. You really should try it to see and experience the difference. A good instructor makes a world of difference with the small things that make a bike fun or a bit too much work at times.

[cayuse]

Let me ask you something, Gz. Do you ever downshift to power through a turn? Do you ever downshift because you find yourself in slower traffic? Shifting down to a stop is just an extension of this. If you always let out the clutch when you shift, even for a moment, you will always be ENGAGED in the right gear to either engine-brake or speed up. Like several others here, I don't use my brakes much in a lot of my riding.

Coming up to a side-road and you want to make that sharp 90deg turn? If you plan it right (like you should, anyway) you don't need brakes.
Sometimes I'll just tap my brake lever a couple of times to let the cager behind me know I'm slowing down. Besides that, I leave the brakes alone and work the gears. I think it's easier.

just my $.02

[Water Warrior 2]

[quote=Water Warrior][quote="Gz Rider":1d5cwsfi]

Originally Posted by "Water Warrior":1d5cwsfi

Don't argue. Most rider training courses are based on the writings and experience of David Hough. He is a tough act to follow.

I won't do things that don't make sense to me. If it cannot be explained to me I start to wonder what's going on. I read the books and that's more than many do. A friend of mine took the beginning and adanvced courses years ago. He wrecked two months after the advanced. On the other hand I am completely self taught with no problems in three years. What does that prove? Nothing. Just saying.[/quote:1d5cwsfi]
I won't try to find fault with your logic. I also was self taught and rode for close to 50 years before taking a good riding course. No crashes or mishaps on the street in all that time. After the course I am a safer, more comfortable, confident rider with a lot of better safer habits to rely on. My bike is a lot easier to ride due to getting rid of bad habits that were always waiting to bite me. You really should try it to see and experience the difference. A good instructor makes a world of difference with the small things that make a bike fun instead of a bit too much work at times.[/quote:1d5cwsfi]
There, I fixed my bad wording.

[Gz Rider]

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[Water Warrior 2]

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree with our respective methods.

[Gz Rider]

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