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Old 04-04-2011, 12:19 PM   #41
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Secondly, some people (me included :whistle: ) HATE windshields. In all my riding years I've never found one that I could adjust EXACTLY to my needs. That's not to say that you shouldn't fit one. If you want one, then fine.

What I'm trying to say is that I've never had the symptoms you describe. It may be simply that, at this early stage in your riding career, you're not relaxed enough. Just "flow with it", and perhaps you may not need the windshield. :2tup:


I will not ride without a shield.
I don't like the pressure and debris from the road and bugs.

The difference between your riding and mine.


I can leave the house and do a 175 mile ride without a stoplight and very few stop signs.
No rest from high speed wind.

Speeds tend to be much higher here in the States.
More distance between towns...people in a hurry.


55mph two lane and 60 or 65 4 lane. Interstate 70 and up.
Very few actually drive the limit...most are 5=10 over.



If you rarely go over 45 that's one thing but that doesn't work here.
Not many 45 mph roads where I live...I would get run over, so more speed.

YMMV
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:02 PM   #42
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Secondly, some people (me included :whistle: ) HATE windshields. In all my riding years I've never found one that I could adjust EXACTLY to my needs. That's not to say that you shouldn't fit one. If you want one, then fine.

What I'm trying to say is that I've never had the symptoms you describe. It may be simply that, at this early stage in your riding career, you're not relaxed enough. Just "flow with it", and perhaps you may not need the windshield. :2tup:


I will not ride without a shield.
The difference between your riding and mine.

I can leave the house and do a 175 mile ride without a stoplight and very few stop signs.
Speeds tend to be much higher here in the States.
55mph two lane and 60 or 65 4 lane. Interstate 70 and up.

If you rarely go over 45 that's one thing but that doesn't work here.

YMMV
Please don't turn into another ER!!!!!

I was just giving another point of view. If you re-read it, you'll see that I also said that if he wanted to fit a screen, then fine.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:28 PM   #43
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I think you might be reading to much into his statement.

He was just stating what works for himself and why.
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Old 04-04-2011, 02:28 PM   #44
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What are talking about alantf ???
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It just seemed, from what you wrote, that as a screen worked for you, and your riding style, that this was the ONLY way forward, and that anybody who didn't live in America couldn't possibly know anything about the differences (as they appeared to you) in styles of riding. It certainly appeared to me that you were taking the ER stance, that yours was the only way. I reiterate that I stated quite clearly that the fitting of a windshield was entirely up to him. As a new rider, on a learner bike, others have mentioned that he might like to hold back on the add ons, until he had decided to upgrade or not in the near future. I was merely giving another point of view, that has worked for me for many years, whilst still giving him the option to fit or not to fit a windshield. Your reply was calculated to shoot me down in flames & reinforce your own rigidly held view.
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It just seemed, from what you wrote, that as a screen worked for you, and your riding style, that this was the ONLY way forward, and that anybody who didn't live in America couldn't possibly know anything about the differences (as they appeared to you) in styles of riding. It certainly appeared to me that you were taking the ER stance, that yours was the only way. I reiterate that I stated quite clearly that the fitting of a windshield was entirely up to him. As a new rider, on a learner bike, others have mentioned that he might like to hold back on the add ons, until he had decided to upgrade or not in the near future. I was merely giving another point of view, that has worked for me for many years, whilst still giving him the option to fit or not to fit a windshield. Your reply was calculated to shoot me down in flames & reinforce your own rigidly held view.
As a participant in this conversation, that is *not* what I got. He very clearly emphasized that it was *his* point of view based on *his* riding conditions and expectations.
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Waya, next time you go out for a longer ride you might want to bungee a small duffle bag on the pillion seat to act as a backrest/back support. You may be surprised at the difference in comfort and realize how hard you are working while just sitting on a moving bike.
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Waya, next time you go out for a longer ride you might want to bungee a small duffle bag on the pillion seat to act as a backrest/back support. You may be surprised at the difference in comfort and realize how hard you are working while just sitting on a moving bike.

Hrmmm will have to keep that in mind, now that I have saddle bag supports on it, I have figured out they make good bungee posts.
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Hey alan, let me ask you a real simple question...

Other than going to work, what is the distance and average speed of a good Sunday(or any other day) ride for you.
Just an average.

Do you know what YMMV means???
Your Mileage May Vary...(what works for me may not work for you).
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Old 04-04-2011, 08:46 PM   #50
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I rode for more that four years before I finally got windshield for the GZ. The lack of a windshield was never a problem around town. Although it required more effort on my longer weekend rides. I never really got used to it, but it wasn't bad enough to keep me from riding.

It wasn't until I was contemplating spending long hours on the bike for multiple days that I came to the conclusion that I needed a windshield. As others have pointed out, each person has different levels of tolerance and comfort requirements. On my trip I saw plenty of riders sans windshield and plenty with. I honestly can't say whether there were more with or without - I just wasn't paying attention to windshields.

Personally, I prefer a windshield under the following conditions:
- Riding longer than an hour or so at greater than 45 mph
- When it's below about 50 degrees (F)

Around town when it's warm I'm fine without the windshield, it's just too much trouble to take it off and put it back on. Now, my Vulcan's windshield has quick-release fittings, even so I'm still too lazy to mess with it.
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