is a little chatter or chugging when clutch is engaged - Page 3

Easy Rider · 04-14-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dannylightning

i take it low idol speed is bad for the bike,
so i take it i should up the idol a bit,
ill halve to go through he manual again and look up the correct idol speed.

A low idle speed CAN be bad for an engine and the fewer the number of pistons, the more likely that it could be a problem. It strains the piston, rod and crank when it just barely has enough momentum to complete the compression stroke. It is kind of like pre-ignition knock or lugging the engine by being in too low a gear.

It also makes riding and shifting rougher if set too low.

So, when you find out what the recommended idle speed IS, how are you going to set it ??
The throttle stop, idle speed adjustment should be done when the bike is thoroughly warm (HOT).

And.....to repeat the important part from my last post......I am NOT necessarily saying you should increase the idle speed. If the idle speed goes up when warmed up and that "ticking over" is much less pronounced, then you probably should NOT change the basic throttle stop position.

What you should do it use a tiny little bit of choke/fast idle lever to achieve about that same idle speed until it warms up and doesn't need it anymore. My bike is rideable after a warm up of about a minute......if and ONLY IF I leave the choke on a bit. Depending on outside temp. that lasts from a mile or so in the summer time to maybe 5 miles or more if it is really cold.

The choke is your friend. Do not be afraid to use it !!!

Easy Rider · 04-14-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by patrick_777

You'll never get a good lope out of it like you do a v-twin or an i4.

If you have an I4 that lopes at idle, it is set WAY too low.......or isn't hitting on all 4 !! :roll: :biggrin:

Or maybe it is a drag bike running on ether. :crackup

patrick_777 · 04-14-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Rider

The choke is your friend.

Don't you mean "Enrichment Lever"? :poke2:

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Originally Posted by Easy Rider

If you have an I4 that lopes at idle, it is set WAY too low.......or isn't hitting on all 4 !!

True. I4's don't lope. My bad.

Easy Rider · 04-14-2009, 02:12 PM

[quote=patrick_777]

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Originally Posted by "Easy Rider":17eoz92y

The choke is your friend.

Don't you mean "Enrichment Lever"? :poke2:.[/quote:17eoz92y]

I've got a lever you can "enrich"........ :neener:

dannylightning · 04-14-2009, 04:39 PM

I4's ????? well i set my idle higher, just to the point where it sounds a little too high.. i guess i did have it set kind of low after watching a few videos on youtube of gz's setting there running way faster than mine was..

i just got me motorcycle license that was a joke, so the bike just came back from a 50 mile trip, ran great. my uncle drove it down to the testing center and i rode it home.

i say it is a joke cus they had me do one lap around the parking lot witch i had to go around the building for.. i would say the total amount of time the lady saw me on the bike was about 10 seconds, probably not even that so if thats all they do they should just hand out the license to every one or not require one.

no more sticking to the back country roads and trying not to go more than a few miles from my house... too bad it's about 40 degrees out or i would go riding some more. im still frozen from the ride home.

music man · 04-14-2009, 05:09 PM

An I4 is a inline 4 cylinder engine. instead of being in a V like a V-twin.

dannylightning · 04-14-2009, 05:22 PM

thanks, never been good with abbreviations..

primal · 04-14-2009, 07:20 PM

I4 is the abbreviation for inline-4. That's the type of engine used in most sport bikes.

BTW, I don't know if anyone mentioned this to you before, but you should really look into taking the MSF course.

music man · 04-14-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by primal

I4 is the abbreviation for inline-4. That's the type of engine used in most sport bikes.

look up about three posts :haha2:

dannylightning · 04-14-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by primal

BTW, I don't know if anyone mentioned this to you before, but you should really look into taking the MSF course.

the class is a bit pricey, 250.00 at one place and 300 some bucks at the other plus you got to buy all this saftey gear. i think both of those places charged a 50 dolor charge for insurance perpouses too. i guess its for if you get hurt or trash their bike.

im not new to riding, but it has been a while. how ever this is the first bike i have owned, my buddy that lived way way out in the sticks in ohio had bikes and we used to go out riding them all the time.

alot of the time i chose his little yz80 over the motorcycles. that thing was fast he had it modified, not sure if those are little rockets stock or not. we used to take that out on trails and jump it too. i really miss riding that little bike ahhhhh good memories

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dannylightning Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: akron ohio Posts: 893	Re: is a little chattering when clutch is engaged normal I4's ????? well i set my idle higher, just to the point where it sounds a little too high.. i guess i did have it set kind of low after watching a few videos on youtube of gz's setting there running way faster than mine was.. i just got me motorcycle license that was a joke, so the bike just came back from a 50 mile trip, ran great. my uncle drove it down to the testing center and i rode it home. i say it is a joke cus they had me do one lap around the parking lot witch i had to go around the building for.. i would say the total amount of time the lady saw me on the bike was about 10 seconds, probably not even that so if thats all they do they should just hand out the license to every one or not require one. no more sticking to the back country roads and trying not to go more than a few miles from my house... too bad it's about 40 degrees out or i would go riding some more. im still frozen from the ride home. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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04-14-2009, 05:09 PM	#26
music man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hot Springs Arkansas Posts: 1,127	Re: is a little chattering when clutch is engaged normal An I4 is a inline 4 cylinder engine. instead of being in a V like a V-twin. __________________ "Tell me what kind of wreck you're going to have and I'll tell you what type of helmet you need." [Author Unknown]
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04-14-2009, 05:22 PM	#27
dannylightning Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: akron ohio Posts: 893	Re: is a little chattering when clutch is engaged normal thanks, never been good with abbreviations..
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04-14-2009, 07:20 PM	#28
primal Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hurricane, WV Posts: 446	Re: is a little chattering when clutch is engaged normal I4 is the abbreviation for inline-4. That's the type of engine used in most sport bikes. BTW, I don't know if anyone mentioned this to you before, but you should really look into taking the MSF course.
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