Engine oil leak - Page 2

5th_bike · 10-13-2007, 08:15 PM

I changed the oil and oil filter in my 2005 GZ250 right after I had brought it home, because it was two years old. A few remarks and a question, after reading the above:

1) A GZ250 oil change is Messy, to put it mildly. At first, after removing the plug, the oil flows straight down in a thick beam, but in the trickle phase after that it goes sideways onto the left exhaust pipe. If unsufficiently removed, it will temporarily give a burning smell later on.

2) A GZ250 oil filter change is even Messier. (BTW the torque on the three little bolts of the oil filter cap I measured at 7 lbs/ft when unscrewing them). During removal of the cap, a big puddle of oil comes sploosh from underneath and all over the motor and parts underneath it, including the right exhaust pipe...

Then, the question: why should it be necessary to remove the oil sump cap (I assume =the part on the bottom that the drain plug is in the middle of) for an oil change ? I only removed the drain plug and let the oil leak out (moving the motor left and right gives a little extra old oil) - I didn't know the oil sump cap needs removal too, and for what. If it does, please let me know, if it doesn't, please just ignore, thank you.

Water Warrior 2 · 10-13-2007, 09:01 PM

5th bike, good question about the oil plug plate. Two reasons might be for a visual inspection of the innards and an easy fix(just replace it)if you cross thread or damage the plug and threads in the plate. Of course I tend to guess a lot too.

Easy Rider · 10-13-2007, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 5th_bike

Then, the question: why should it be necessary to remove the oil sump cap (I assume =the part on the bottom that the drain plug is in the middle of) for an oil change ?

It isn't. Where did you get the idea that it is? IIRC, there is something in there that is supposed to be inspected/cleaned every 15K miles or so (too lazy to go get the manual).

As for the messy-ness of the oil change, it should be MUCH LESS messy the second time! :roll:

It helps to have the bike upright instead of on the side stand.

Jaime · 10-13-2007, 09:34 PM

You don't have to remove the oil plug plate for an oil change. There's a plain filter inside that can be cleaned or replaced, but it isn't done often.
As I saw some oil around that plate, I thought that it could be leaking from there, supposing that an inexperienced mechanic unbolted it for any reason. O_o

By the way, Water Warrior's suggestions are right too.

Badbob · 10-15-2007, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy Rider

It helps to have the bike upright instead of on the side stand.

I just hold mine upright until the oil stops draining. You need to do that to get all the old oil out any way. As soon as I take the drain plug out I pull the bike to the upright position. I don't get oil all over the bottom.

**jonathan180iq** · 10-15-2007, 08:20 AM

Didn't some really nice member write a "how-to" for an oil change?

I'm pretty sure it's on here somewhere... :cool:

10-13-2007, 08:15 PM	#11
5th_bike Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: HoCo, Maryland Posts: 1,349	I changed the oil and oil filter in my 2005 GZ250 right after I had brought it home, because it was two years old. A few remarks and a question, after reading the above: 1) A GZ250 oil change is Messy, to put it mildly. At first, after removing the plug, the oil flows straight down in a thick beam, but in the trickle phase after that it goes sideways onto the left exhaust pipe. If unsufficiently removed, it will temporarily give a burning smell later on. 2) A GZ250 oil filter change is even Messier. (BTW the torque on the three little bolts of the oil filter cap I measured at 7 lbs/ft when unscrewing them). During removal of the cap, a big puddle of oil comes sploosh from underneath and all over the motor and parts underneath it, including the right exhaust pipe... Then, the question: why should it be necessary to remove the oil sump cap (I assume =the part on the bottom that the drain plug is in the middle of) for an oil change ? I only removed the drain plug and let the oil leak out (moving the motor left and right gives a little extra old oil) - I didn't know the oil sump cap needs removal too, and for what. If it does, please let me know, if it doesn't, please just ignore, thank you. __________________ 2005 "Saturn Black", stock + tach Login or Register to Remove Ads
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10-13-2007, 09:34 PM	#14
Jaime Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Spain Posts: 102	You don't have to remove the oil plug plate for an oil change. There's a plain filter inside that can be cleaned or replaced, but it isn't done often. As I saw some oil around that plate, I thought that it could be leaking from there, supposing that an inexperienced mechanic unbolted it for any reason. O_o By the way, Water Warrior's suggestions are right too. __________________ Trying my best in English
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10-13-2007, 09:01 PM	#12
Water Warrior 2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Squamish B.C Canada Posts: 11,409	5th bike, good question about the oil plug plate. Two reasons might be for a visual inspection of the innards and an easy fix(just replace it)if you cross thread or damage the plug and threads in the plate. Of course I tend to guess a lot too.
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10-15-2007, 08:20 AM	#16
jonathan180iq Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 3,996	Didn't some really nice member write a "how-to" for an oil change? I'm pretty sure it's on here somewhere... :cool:
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