First Oil Change

bjrscj · 08-01-2011, 06:16 PM

I have two basic questions:

1. The manual says to fill the oil up 1300 ml if not changing the filter. However, my oil was not up to the full line and there was a ton of room still left. What do I do?

2. When I went to fill up my oil, the first bottle I used poured out dark brown, while the second bottle I poured out was light amber color. It seems awfully strange that two of the exact same oil would look so different. Any suggestions on what I do now, or if the oil change will be fine for another 3k miles?

geezer · 08-01-2011, 06:34 PM

fill till its in the middle of the window give or take, there should be some marks on the sight glass for you to go by, you wanna be inbetween them. sounds like you might have put some used oil in the bike. sometimes peeps use oil jugs as drain containers, buy em both new? if both were new you might be over reacting, plus the seal on the cap should have been locked on both bottles. better change your filter as well, just sayin

bjrscj · 08-01-2011, 06:43 PM

Yes, I did buy them both new and there was a seal on both. It may not matter at all, but the colors were DISTINCTLY different. The bike only has 5000 miles on it. I did get it used, so I was thinking about changing the filter, but I haven't found one around yet. I'll have to order it online. I was thinking about waiting until 8k to change the oil again along with the filter.

Unfortunately, I listened to my stupidity instead of the manual, and I filled the oil up past 1300 mL so the window showed full. It's not hard to fix, I suppose, but does it matter if it's filled more?

Thanks for the advice.

geezer · 08-01-2011, 07:18 PM

its nver a good idea to over fill, crankcase pressures could possibly blow seals and gaskets. fat chance it will happen to your bike being overfilled an ounce or two but drain it anyway to the proper level. well do you know if the PO changed the filter at all and what milage? if he just did it then dont worry about it and do it next oil change if you dont know, dont chance it. i dont think you have to drian the oil to replace the filter.

bjrscj · 08-01-2011, 07:38 PM

If you don't have to drain the oil to change the filter, that should be no problem. I would definitely rather take the extra precautions for sure. Thanks for your advice.

geezer · 08-01-2011, 08:59 PM

sure. some feel its unessisary to change the filter every time, and its probably not but....who cares? :lol: change it, twould suck to have an engine failure then you wouldnt be able to sleep at night thinkin it might have been because of leaving the filter.

mrlmd1 · 08-02-2011, 09:01 AM

Instead of draining the excess oil out of the bottom drain, which is messy, you can suck/pump a little out with a small hand pump like that from a Windex bottle or similar. Just put the straw down the filler hole and pump out into a container until you get the oil fill level correct. Remember, the bike has to be level, NOT on the side stand, to check for proper level in the site window.

geezer · 08-02-2011, 06:07 PM

thats good advice there, ill be sure to remember that

Rookie Rider · 08-03-2011, 03:09 PM

For sure leave it straight up and not on kickstand for acurate reading.

**jonathan180iq** · 08-03-2011, 03:55 PM

They make a cool vacuum oil change thing for lawnmowers that works really well for bikes too.

Check it out

http://www.liquivac.com/

08-01-2011, 06:16 PM	#1
bjrscj Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Atlanta Posts: 57	First Oil Change I have two basic questions: 1. The manual says to fill the oil up 1300 ml if not changing the filter. However, my oil was not up to the full line and there was a ton of room still left. What do I do? 2. When I went to fill up my oil, the first bottle I used poured out dark brown, while the second bottle I poured out was light amber color. It seems awfully strange that two of the exact same oil would look so different. Any suggestions on what I do now, or if the oil change will be fine for another 3k miles? Login or Register to Remove Ads
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08-01-2011, 06:34 PM	#2
geezer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: dahlonega GA Posts: 563	Re: First Oil Change fill till its in the middle of the window give or take, there should be some marks on the sight glass for you to go by, you wanna be inbetween them. sounds like you might have put some used oil in the bike. sometimes peeps use oil jugs as drain containers, buy em both new? if both were new you might be over reacting, plus the seal on the cap should have been locked on both bottles. better change your filter as well, just sayin __________________ 99 gz 250 and a currently dismantled fzr 1000
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08-01-2011, 06:43 PM	#3
bjrscj Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Atlanta Posts: 57	Re: First Oil Change Yes, I did buy them both new and there was a seal on both. It may not matter at all, but the colors were DISTINCTLY different. The bike only has 5000 miles on it. I did get it used, so I was thinking about changing the filter, but I haven't found one around yet. I'll have to order it online. I was thinking about waiting until 8k to change the oil again along with the filter. Unfortunately, I listened to my stupidity instead of the manual, and I filled the oil up past 1300 mL so the window showed full. It's not hard to fix, I suppose, but does it matter if it's filled more? Thanks for the advice. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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08-01-2011, 07:18 PM	#4
geezer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: dahlonega GA Posts: 563	Re: First Oil Change its nver a good idea to over fill, crankcase pressures could possibly blow seals and gaskets. fat chance it will happen to your bike being overfilled an ounce or two but drain it anyway to the proper level. well do you know if the PO changed the filter at all and what milage? if he just did it then dont worry about it and do it next oil change if you dont know, dont chance it. i dont think you have to drian the oil to replace the filter. __________________ 99 gz 250 and a currently dismantled fzr 1000
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08-01-2011, 07:38 PM	#5
bjrscj Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Atlanta Posts: 57	Re: First Oil Change If you don't have to drain the oil to change the filter, that should be no problem. I would definitely rather take the extra precautions for sure. Thanks for your advice. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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08-01-2011, 08:59 PM	#6
geezer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: dahlonega GA Posts: 563	Re: First Oil Change sure. some feel its unessisary to change the filter every time, and its probably not but....who cares? :lol: change it, twould suck to have an engine failure then you wouldnt be able to sleep at night thinkin it might have been because of leaving the filter. __________________ 99 gz 250 and a currently dismantled fzr 1000
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08-02-2011, 09:01 AM	#7
mrlmd1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Crawfordville, Florida Posts: 2,853	Re: First Oil Change Instead of draining the excess oil out of the bottom drain, which is messy, you can suck/pump a little out with a small hand pump like that from a Windex bottle or similar. Just put the straw down the filler hole and pump out into a container until you get the oil fill level correct. Remember, the bike has to be level, NOT on the side stand, to check for proper level in the site window.
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08-02-2011, 06:07 PM	#8
geezer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: dahlonega GA Posts: 563	Re: First Oil Change thats good advice there, ill be sure to remember that __________________ 99 gz 250 and a currently dismantled fzr 1000
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08-03-2011, 03:09 PM	#9
Rookie Rider Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Queens, NYC Posts: 1,263	Re: First Oil Change For sure leave it straight up and not on kickstand for acurate reading.
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08-03-2011, 03:55 PM	#10
jonathan180iq Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 3,996	Re: First Oil Change They make a cool vacuum oil change thing for lawnmowers that works really well for bikes too. Check it out http://www.liquivac.com/
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