I Accidentally Left the Petcock in Prime - Page 2

Way · 11-09-2011, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gz Rider

It sounds like to understand the concept of storage and that's good but, have you put any fuel preservative in the tank?

Hi Gz. No, not yet. I was thinking of Stabil for Ethanol? I have used a little Chevron Techron in the past, probably couldn't hurt to do so again.

Gz Rider · 11-09-2011, 08:30 AM

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blaine · 11-09-2011, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Way

Hi Gz. No, not yet. I was thinking of Stabil for Ethanol? I have used a little Chevron Techron in the past, probably couldn't hurt to do so again.

After sitting so long,it wouldn't hurt to add some berrymans b12 or SeaFoam and go for a good long ride.

**jonathan180iq** · 11-09-2011, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Way

It was left that way for about a week now.

How do I make sure there will be no engine damage if I start it?

Do I remove the spark plug and smell for gas?

Do I check for a gas smell in the crankcase?

I would perform an oil change and pull the spark plug and blow some compressed air down into the chamber.
Let it sit overnight and then fire it up in the morning.

Several people on the forum have done this over the last year and we haven't heard any horror stories, yet

alantf · 11-09-2011, 09:16 AM

Just read my European mamual. It says not to use fuel with more than 10% of ethanol, or 5% of methanol. It also says that if the fuel contains MTBE (methyl tertiary butyl ether) you can use it if it's above 15%, because it is an oxygenated fuel, without alcohol. This all goes completely over my head, but someone may be able to make sense of it. :??:

**jonathan180iq** · 11-09-2011, 09:44 AM

Ethanol is an oxygenate, but must be more corrosive than the MTBE, so they let you use the latter in higher doses.
It's all just watered down garbage.

"I don't always burn fossil fuel. But when I do, I prefer real gasoline."

blaine · 11-09-2011, 03:53 PM

Well said,Jonathan.

Jvacustoms · 11-09-2011, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jonathan180iq

Ethanol is an oxygenate, but must be more corrosive than the MTBE, so they let you use the latter in higher doses.
It's all just watered down garbage.

"I don't always burn fossil fuel. But when I do, I prefer real gasoline."

Dont forget... Stay thirsty my friends!

Water Warrior 2 · 11-09-2011, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Way

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Originally Posted by alantf

Not riding for a considerable time is the same as "storage". Whether it's "stored" or "unridden" you're still doing negative things to a bike that is not getting ridden enough to get the engine up to temperature & the battery recharged.

I see what you're saying. :2tup: I was thinking in terms of the GZ manual's definition of storage where the crankcase gets filled to the filler hole, etc.

In the 5 years of being a member on 3 different forums you are the 2nd person to bring up the idea of filling the "entire" crankcase for storage purposes. I wouldn't bother. I think that is a very long term storage idea(think years) and totally not needed. Your off season is not so long to consider a long term storage procedure.
Gonna get some flack here but here is what I have been doing. If the bike is 1/3 or less on the oil change schedule I don't bother with an oil change for the winter down time. We have a somewhat short warmer winter though.
The bike is basically ready to go for a ride anytime with a full tank, Stabil and a well lubed chain. Check the tire pressures and lights and wave good bye. The battery gets it's Tender feeding once a month. I try to keep it simple and it seems to work for me.

Way · 11-10-2011, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Gz Rider

Well my main point was to anyone that if the bike is going to sit that long, it should have fuel preservative in it.

As for what to use, I believe Stabil for ethanol is meant for E85. You may be using the 10% ethanol blends in vermont but I believe regular stabil is correct for that. Check both the labels and be sure which gas you are putting in the tank.

Definitely a good point.

We have 10% around these parts, some non-ethanol premium is available about 20 miles (32 KM) away. I might make a point next time to fill a jug so I can keep it at the house for the bike. I've got one of the bigger cans of Stabil around somewhere, I'll have to take a look.

Two of the local stations used to carry non-ethanol Indian gas, but both are selling 10% now. Don't know why.

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alantf Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tenerife (Spain) Posts: 3,715	Re: I Accidentally Left the Petcock in Prime Just read my European mamual. It says not to use fuel with more than 10% of ethanol, or 5% of methanol. It also says that if the fuel contains MTBE (methyl tertiary butyl ether) you can use it if it's above 15%, because it is an oxygenated fuel, without alcohol. This all goes completely over my head, but someone may be able to make sense of it. :??: __________________ By birth an Englishman, by the grace of God a Yorkshireman. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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11-09-2011, 09:44 AM	#16
jonathan180iq Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 3,996	Re: I Accidentally Left the Petcock in Prime Ethanol is an oxygenate, but must be more corrosive than the MTBE, so they let you use the latter in higher doses. It's all just watered down garbage. "I don't always burn fossil fuel. But when I do, I prefer real gasoline."
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11-09-2011, 03:53 PM	#17
blaine Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: P.E.I. Canada Posts: 3,784	Re: I Accidentally Left the Petcock in Prime Well said,Jonathan. __________________ If at first you do succeed, try not to look surprised.
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