Tick tick clunk! - Page 4

Goose51683 · 07-20-2013, 12:01 PM

First things first. I installed a new plug from the get go, triple checked the spacing on it.

I've checked the carb several times and have reinstalled it multiple times in the past so I don't think it's installed incorrectly. I'll still take it off, shoot some starter fluid in there and see what happens. A the very least that should rule something out.

I've checked the cam and timing chain a few times now. Everything looks to be dead on. Even if it wasa tooth off I would expect some firing, it would be off but it should still at least attempt to fire.

Also the cam chain is tight so I don't think it's stretched. Turning the engine a few times from the generator side the timing mark consistently line up so I don't think I'm losing anything there.

I guessi will shoot a little oil in the cylinder and see if that lubes things up at all. Ill also saok the car in gasoline for awhile and see if that loosens anything up.

Really at this point I'm out of ideas.

Goose51683 · 07-20-2013, 02:18 PM

Latest update.

I shot some starter fluid into the cylinder and tried to start her up. Not much happened other than a "plumb plumb plumb" sound. No firing.

I also added some oil into the spark plug hole and rolled the cylinder through a few cycles. It seemed to move easier but after trying to start it there was no real improvement.

I keep coming back to timing. I aligned the t mark and the cam exactly as the manual says. Can anyone verify this is correct for a 2008. I know there are not supposed to be any differences but I just want to confirm that.

Otherwise does anyone have any more details on the electrical side of the timing between engine and spark plug. I a entirely unfamiliar with this so please use small words. Haha

Goose51683 · 07-20-2013, 02:32 PM

Looking through the manual (again). I noticed there is supposed to be a spring behind the neutral switch. I do not remember ever seeing a spring here. It's possible there was but I lost it or that it was never here. What's the chances of this causing at least part of my issue?

Anyone know the springs purpose?

raul10141964 · 07-20-2013, 03:31 PM

If the key on the Rotor Assy (part #5) is missing o damage the ignition timing will be off

Goose51683 · 07-20-2013, 10:12 PM

Raul,

When you say part #5 what are you referring to?

Is it from a diagram in the manual?

raul10141964 · 07-20-2013, 11:29 PM

part # 5 on the picture

Goose51683 · 07-21-2013, 11:35 AM

I'm sorry. Te picture didn't pop up in my phone hence my confusion.

Goose51683 · 07-21-2013, 11:44 AM

Part 5 is not the part I'm referring to. I'll try and find a diagram to explain what I'm talking about.

Goose51683 · 07-21-2013, 11:55 AM

In the service manual, page 3-58 it references a spring and a terminal that are installed prior to the neutral switch. I do not appear to have these parts on my bike but am also having trouble finding them in the parts manual.

Goose51683 · 07-21-2013, 12:01 PM

Okay I have determined that I am missing the spring for this. I found the contact and will be looking for a spring that fits today. My question is, does anyone know if the neutral switch will do anything other than turn on the neutral light? With this missing will it actually affect the bike from running?

07-20-2013, 12:01 PM	#31
Goose51683 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 621	Re: Tick tick clunk! First things first. I installed a new plug from the get go, triple checked the spacing on it. I've checked the carb several times and have reinstalled it multiple times in the past so I don't think it's installed incorrectly. I'll still take it off, shoot some starter fluid in there and see what happens. A the very least that should rule something out. I've checked the cam and timing chain a few times now. Everything looks to be dead on. Even if it wasa tooth off I would expect some firing, it would be off but it should still at least attempt to fire. Also the cam chain is tight so I don't think it's stretched. Turning the engine a few times from the generator side the timing mark consistently line up so I don't think I'm losing anything there. I guessi will shoot a little oil in the cylinder and see if that lubes things up at all. Ill also saok the car in gasoline for awhile and see if that loosens anything up. Really at this point I'm out of ideas. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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07-20-2013, 02:18 PM	#32
Goose51683 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 621	Re: Tick tick clunk! Latest update. I shot some starter fluid into the cylinder and tried to start her up. Not much happened other than a "plumb plumb plumb" sound. No firing. I also added some oil into the spark plug hole and rolled the cylinder through a few cycles. It seemed to move easier but after trying to start it there was no real improvement. I keep coming back to timing. I aligned the t mark and the cam exactly as the manual says. Can anyone verify this is correct for a 2008. I know there are not supposed to be any differences but I just want to confirm that. Otherwise does anyone have any more details on the electrical side of the timing between engine and spark plug. I a entirely unfamiliar with this so please use small words. Haha
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07-20-2013, 02:32 PM	#33
Goose51683 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 621	Re: Tick tick clunk! Looking through the manual (again). I noticed there is supposed to be a spring behind the neutral switch. I do not remember ever seeing a spring here. It's possible there was but I lost it or that it was never here. What's the chances of this causing at least part of my issue? Anyone know the springs purpose? Login or Register to Remove Ads
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07-20-2013, 03:31 PM	#34
raul10141964 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Elkhart, Indiana Posts: 369	Re: Tick tick clunk! If the key on the Rotor Assy (part #5) is missing o damage the ignition timing will be off
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07-20-2013, 10:12 PM	#35
Goose51683 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 621	Re: Tick tick clunk! Raul, When you say part #5 what are you referring to? Is it from a diagram in the manual? Login or Register to Remove Ads
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07-20-2013, 11:29 PM	#36
raul10141964 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Elkhart, Indiana Posts: 369	Re: Tick tick clunk! part # 5 on the picture
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07-21-2013, 11:35 AM	#37
Goose51683 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 621	Re: Tick tick clunk! I'm sorry. Te picture didn't pop up in my phone hence my confusion.
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07-21-2013, 11:44 AM	#38
Goose51683 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 621	Re: Tick tick clunk! Part 5 is not the part I'm referring to. I'll try and find a diagram to explain what I'm talking about.
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07-21-2013, 11:55 AM	#39
Goose51683 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 621	Re: Tick tick clunk! In the service manual, page 3-58 it references a spring and a terminal that are installed prior to the neutral switch. I do not appear to have these parts on my bike but am also having trouble finding them in the parts manual.
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07-21-2013, 12:01 PM	#40
Goose51683 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 621	Re: Tick tick clunk! Okay I have determined that I am missing the spring for this. I found the contact and will be looking for a spring that fits today. My question is, does anyone know if the neutral switch will do anything other than turn on the neutral light? With this missing will it actually affect the bike from running?
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