Loud Pipes Do What? - Page 2

Badbob · 03-18-2007, 11:02 AM

I do know a bit about electroniocs.

Horns tend to draw lots of current and a relay is definitely a good idea. I've never seen a car or truck that doesn't have one. If you change the horn and burn out your horn switch you will have to buy the entire assembly. The switch is not available separately. Expensive to replace.

Jordan310 · 03-19-2007, 03:41 PM

What kind of relay, and how easy to install? =)

Badbob · 03-20-2007, 04:38 AM

Horn relays are everywhere. Practically every car or truck has one.

These should get you started:
http://www.rattlebars.com/mtz/hornrelay.html
http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/horn-rel ... -relay.htm
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-horns/
http://www.easternbeaver.com/Home/Main/ ... s_kit.html

The ones made specifically for motorcycles are smaller and look like they are more water resistant but you don't have to use one of these. An automotive one will work.

Just make sure the one you use is rated for the amount of current you are going to have on the controlled circuit.

Horn relays are a lso good for control other things besides horns.

Badbob · 03-20-2007, 04:38 AM

Horn relays are everywhere. Practically every car or truck has one.

These should get you started:
http://www.rattlebars.com/mtz/hornrelay.html
http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/horn-rel ... -relay.htm
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-horns/
http://www.easternbeaver.com/Home/Main/ ... s_kit.html

The ones made specifically for motorcycles are smaller and look like they are more water resistant but you don't have to use one of these. An automotive one will work.

Just make sure the one you use is rated for the amount of current you are going to have on the controlled circuit.

Horn relays are a aso good for control other things besides horns.

davidc83 · 03-20-2007, 06:46 AM

The Stebel air horn comes with its own separate relay and separate fuse. Easy to install once you decipher the installation directions. It can be installed in existing bolt locations or if you are mechanically inclined, you can drill some installation holes. :roll:

Bill · 03-20-2007, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by davidc83

The Stebel air horn comes with its own separate relay and separate fuse. Easy to install once you decipher the installation directions. It can be installed in existing bolt locations or if you are mechanically inclined, you can drill some installation holes. :roll:

Did you install your Stebel on the original horn location? Do you have any pictures of your installation on a GZ250?

Cheers!

Jordan310 · 03-20-2007, 05:15 PM

Awesome.
Thanks guys.

Is there any reccomeded "Top of the line" horn that would suit this bike?
Something that is good and loud, but look good as well, and when I resell it, people go ... "oh shit. cool." =)

davidc83 · 03-21-2007, 07:08 AM

I basically installed it in the same location, but had to add a 4 inch metal brace (A piece of 4 inch long, 3/4" wide metal with correct holes size on both ends. I will take pictures of it and post this evening (if I can get the camera from the wife, she has been using it to take pictures of her horses). Instead of placing the relay under the seat as they suggested, I mounted it behind the right front deflector (it fit without drilling/making holes, I have an aversion to drilling holes in my new bike). I still have a little work to do with the wiring/I need to do a better job of wire wrap.

davidc83 · 03-21-2007, 07:14 AM

Hey Jordan, the Stebel air horn is available in chrome, if you want to dish out the xtra bucks for the chrome model.
Here is a link on amazon.com for the chrome version: copy and paste it in your browser.

http://www.amazon.com/Stebel-Chrome-Com ... 564&sr=8-3.

Jordan310 · 03-28-2007, 07:20 PM

I went a different route, and one of the best ones at that.

I purchased a FIAMM RoadThunder horn rated at 134db. It is about double the size and weight of the stock horn, black, and runs on 7amps.
It does not require a relay, or any wiring at all. Not only is it plug and play, but the rear screw on the back of the horn is a perfect fit into the hole where the side reflectors are mounted. This horn came with a set of earplugs. That can only describe how loud this horn is. Forget it .. the stock horn sounds like a sick chiken. This sounds like pissed off goose on steroids.

Its really quite loud. As loud as any car Ive heard, and because I decided to mount it facing front, this one will get a lot of attention when I come across a cellphone dialing, makeup applying, coffee sipping cager who does not see me.

Man its loud. An air horn is cool, but I didnt want all that trouble of relays, and wiring, and mounting. This one works like a charm, and really is a blaster.

Take a look :tongue:

I got mine from http://www.ridesafer.com.
Get yours too, and tell em I sent ya.

And I finnally decided to mount it with the refectors back on. I did however use the horn screw in place of the bolt, and I turned the reflector mount upside down so that they were much higher, and more visible to cars. As well, they disracted from the horn itself. I plan on painting and exposed parts on the horn jet black asap.

Hope you enjoyed. :rawk:

03-18-2007, 11:02 AM	#11
Badbob Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tallahassee FL Posts: 945	I do know a bit about electroniocs. Horns tend to draw lots of current and a relay is definitely a good idea. I've never seen a car or truck that doesn't have one. If you change the horn and burn out your horn switch you will have to buy the entire assembly. The switch is not available separately. Expensive to replace. __________________ My GZ250 Blog Facebook Pinterest Google+ Tumblr YouTube Lumber Jocks Login or Register to Remove Ads
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03-20-2007, 04:38 AM	#13
Badbob Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tallahassee FL Posts: 945	Horn relays are everywhere. Practically every car or truck has one. These should get you started: http://www.rattlebars.com/mtz/hornrelay.html http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/horn-rel ... -relay.htm http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-horns/ http://www.easternbeaver.com/Home/Main/ ... s_kit.html The ones made specifically for motorcycles are smaller and look like they are more water resistant but you don't have to use one of these. An automotive one will work. Just make sure the one you use is rated for the amount of current you are going to have on the controlled circuit. Horn relays are a lso good for control other things besides horns. __________________ My GZ250 Blog Facebook Pinterest Google+ Tumblr YouTube Lumber Jocks Login or Register to Remove Ads
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03-20-2007, 04:38 AM	#14
Badbob Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tallahassee FL Posts: 945	Horn relays are everywhere. Practically every car or truck has one. These should get you started: http://www.rattlebars.com/mtz/hornrelay.html http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/horn-rel ... -relay.htm http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-horns/ http://www.easternbeaver.com/Home/Main/ ... s_kit.html The ones made specifically for motorcycles are smaller and look like they are more water resistant but you don't have to use one of these. An automotive one will work. Just make sure the one you use is rated for the amount of current you are going to have on the controlled circuit. Horn relays are a aso good for control other things besides horns. __________________ My GZ250 Blog Facebook Pinterest Google+ Tumblr YouTube Lumber Jocks
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03-20-2007, 06:46 AM	#15
davidc83 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 184	The Stebel air horn comes with its own separate relay and separate fuse. Easy to install once you decipher the installation directions. It can be installed in existing bolt locations or if you are mechanically inclined, you can drill some installation holes. :roll: Login or Register to Remove Ads
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03-28-2007, 07:20 PM	#20
Jordan310 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 122	Horn I went a different route, and one of the best ones at that. I purchased a FIAMM RoadThunder horn rated at 134db. It is about double the size and weight of the stock horn, black, and runs on 7amps. It does not require a relay, or any wiring at all. Not only is it plug and play, but the rear screw on the back of the horn is a perfect fit into the hole where the side reflectors are mounted. This horn came with a set of earplugs. That can only describe how loud this horn is. Forget it .. the stock horn sounds like a sick chiken. This sounds like pissed off goose on steroids. Its really quite loud. As loud as any car Ive heard, and because I decided to mount it facing front, this one will get a lot of attention when I come across a cellphone dialing, makeup applying, coffee sipping cager who does not see me. Man its loud. An air horn is cool, but I didnt want all that trouble of relays, and wiring, and mounting. This one works like a charm, and really is a blaster. Take a look :tongue: I got mine from http://www.ridesafer.com. Get yours too, and tell em I sent ya. And I finnally decided to mount it with the refectors back on. I did however use the horn screw in place of the bolt, and I turned the reflector mount upside down so that they were much higher, and more visible to cars. As well, they disracted from the horn itself. I plan on painting and exposed parts on the horn jet black asap. Hope you enjoyed. :rawk:
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03-19-2007, 03:41 PM	#12
Jordan310 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 122	What kind of relay, and how easy to install? =)
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03-20-2007, 05:15 PM	#17
Jordan310 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 122	Awesome. Thanks guys. Is there any reccomeded "Top of the line" horn that would suit this bike? Something that is good and loud, but look good as well, and when I resell it, people go ... "oh shit. cool." =)
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03-21-2007, 07:08 AM	#18
davidc83 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 184	I basically installed it in the same location, but had to add a 4 inch metal brace (A piece of 4 inch long, 3/4" wide metal with correct holes size on both ends. I will take pictures of it and post this evening (if I can get the camera from the wife, she has been using it to take pictures of her horses). Instead of placing the relay under the seat as they suggested, I mounted it behind the right front deflector (it fit without drilling/making holes, I have an aversion to drilling holes in my new bike). I still have a little work to do with the wiring/I need to do a better job of wire wrap.
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03-21-2007, 07:14 AM	#19
davidc83 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 184	Hey Jordan, the Stebel air horn is available in chrome, if you want to dish out the xtra bucks for the chrome model. Here is a link on amazon.com for the chrome version: copy and paste it in your browser. http://www.amazon.com/Stebel-Chrome-Com ... 564&sr=8-3.
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