I heard marbles rattling in the engine and it just stopped. - Page 7

Water Warrior 2 · 05-02-2010, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tommyjoebilly

That makes sense, WW. Less resistance equals inaccurate reading. Nice.

That's another one of those things I learned from experience. Used to lube the nuts when rotating tires on the cage. Needed a 4 foot cheater bar to remove the nuts next time round. You can also warp the disc brakes a bunch.

tommyjoebilly · 05-17-2010, 09:41 PM

I FOUND THE MARBLE!! :biggrin: I was gonna try to open up the crankcase, but I didn't have a special tool, so I was surveying the situation and noticed something. A scratch on the starter clutch mechanism. It looked like that monster on the the airplane wing from the Twilight Zone movie had scratched it. I then noticed (page 52 in the manual) the starter driven wheel (about as big as a CD with holes in it) had some chunk of metal in one of the hole and part of the casting of the engine was a little mangled as it jammed between the gear and the wall. I was able to knock it free a little bit and for the first time, I could turn the engine!!! :2tup: Small victory, but at least I now know that that was was had jammed it.
The only problem is, I have no idea where that piece came from. It looks like a pin with a mushroom type head about maybe 8 mm in diameter. It kinda looks like a button head screw without the threads.

alantf · 05-18-2010, 05:02 AM

Gotta problem, trying to enlarge the photo. When I click on it, it's sending me to postimage.org. Can you reload it?

blaine · 05-18-2010, 07:43 AM

To me that looks like a sheared off rivet.Don't know were it's from.Maybe the clutch area?I would take the rivet to your dealer he might have seen this problem before.

tommyjoebilly · 05-19-2010, 10:21 AM

Alan, the photo is that monster from the movie looking in at John Lithgow. It's not of the engine

tommyjoebilly · 05-19-2010, 10:22 AM

Blaine. Yeah, that's a good idea. I'll bring it to the dealer or the nearby motorcycle repair shop.

alantf · 05-19-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tommyjoebilly

Alan, the photo is that monster from the movie looking in at John Lithgow. It's not of the engine

My old eyes.............................................!

tommyjoebilly · 05-19-2010, 02:26 PM

It's hard to see

I'm wearing reading glasses right now!

So I went the bike shop to ask the guys there what they thought that thing was. They said that it was probably a screw that backed out of the starter clutch assy. I have a guy that does work on the side. I'm hoping he has the "special tool" to get that sucker unscrewed. The nut on the crankshaft that holds the assy on the crankshaft.

tommyjoebilly · 11-29-2011, 11:11 AM

Ok, I'm waving the white flag here, as I'm losing my home and have to move. I don't have the bucks to buy a starter clutch assy, starter and starter idler gear. I just want to sell it as is, disassembled. Does anyone have any idea about how I should go about selling it? Thanks for all your advice guys.

JWR · 11-29-2011, 06:55 PM

Not to the bearer of bad news,but...

1. Winter sales always bring less money.
2. Non running bikes are very hard to sell.
3. What kind of $$$ are you looking for.
4. Local ad or craigslist with pictures.

Good luck.

05-17-2010, 09:41 PM	#62
tommyjoebilly Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Connecticut Posts: 36	Re: I heard marbles rattling in the engine and it just stopp I FOUND THE MARBLE!! :biggrin: I was gonna try to open up the crankcase, but I didn't have a special tool, so I was surveying the situation and noticed something. A scratch on the starter clutch mechanism. It looked like that monster on the the airplane wing from the Twilight Zone movie had scratched it. I then noticed (page 52 in the manual) the starter driven wheel (about as big as a CD with holes in it) had some chunk of metal in one of the hole and part of the casting of the engine was a little mangled as it jammed between the gear and the wall. I was able to knock it free a little bit and for the first time, I could turn the engine!!! :2tup: Small victory, but at least I now know that that was was had jammed it. The only problem is, I have no idea where that piece came from. It looks like a pin with a mushroom type head about maybe 8 mm in diameter. It kinda looks like a button head screw without the threads.
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05-18-2010, 05:02 AM	#63
alantf Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tenerife (Spain) Posts: 3,715	Re: I heard marbles rattling in the engine and it just stopp Gotta problem, trying to enlarge the photo. When I click on it, it's sending me to postimage.org. Can you reload it? __________________ By birth an Englishman, by the grace of God a Yorkshireman. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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05-18-2010, 07:43 AM	#64
blaine Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: P.E.I. Canada Posts: 3,784	Re: I heard marbles rattling in the engine and it just stopp To me that looks like a sheared off rivet.Don't know were it's from.Maybe the clutch area?I would take the rivet to your dealer he might have seen this problem before. __________________ If at first you do succeed, try not to look surprised.
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05-19-2010, 10:21 AM	#65
tommyjoebilly Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Connecticut Posts: 36	Re: I heard marbles rattling in the engine and it just stopp Alan, the photo is that monster from the movie looking in at John Lithgow. It's not of the engine Login or Register to Remove Ads
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05-19-2010, 10:22 AM	#66
tommyjoebilly Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Connecticut Posts: 36	Re: I heard marbles rattling in the engine and it just stopp Blaine. Yeah, that's a good idea. I'll bring it to the dealer or the nearby motorcycle repair shop.
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05-19-2010, 02:26 PM	#68
tommyjoebilly Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Connecticut Posts: 36	Re: I heard marbles rattling in the engine and it just stopp It's hard to see I'm wearing reading glasses right now! So I went the bike shop to ask the guys there what they thought that thing was. They said that it was probably a screw that backed out of the starter clutch assy. I have a guy that does work on the side. I'm hoping he has the "special tool" to get that sucker unscrewed. The nut on the crankshaft that holds the assy on the crankshaft.
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11-29-2011, 11:11 AM	#69
tommyjoebilly Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Connecticut Posts: 36	Re: I heard marbles rattling in the engine and it just stopp Ok, I'm waving the white flag here, as I'm losing my home and have to move. I don't have the bucks to buy a starter clutch assy, starter and starter idler gear. I just want to sell it as is, disassembled. Does anyone have any idea about how I should go about selling it? Thanks for all your advice guys.
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11-29-2011, 06:55 PM	#70
JWR Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Louisville, TN Posts: 1,413	Re: I heard marbles rattling in the engine and it just stopp Not to the bearer of bad news,but... 1. Winter sales always bring less money. 2. Non running bikes are very hard to sell. 3. What kind of $$$ are you looking for. 4. Local ad or craigslist with pictures. Good luck. __________________ Jerry Truth is there are lots of great bikes available and not nearly as many good riders out there riding them... "A man's got to know his limitations..."
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