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Yan
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:51 pm Posts: 10 Location: Kanata, ON
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 Chain life
Hi, my wife is considering buying her first bike and GZ250 is an option (particularly because my first bike was a GZ250 and she liked the looks of it very much). There is a few of them available within an hour from us, some with low mileage (couple of thousand miles), and a few with around 10k miles on them. My question is basically this - how long does the chain last on GZ250 (I understand it depends a lot of how and whether it was maintananced, but I am looking for an average number), and how hard it is to replace it yourself? Do you have to cut the old chain and then use that tool (rivet ?) to put the new one together, or there is a way to get an already assembled endless chain on the bike?
Thanks! Yan
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| Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:02 pm |
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Sarris
Joined: Fri May 25, 2007 8:16 pm Posts: 1268 Location: New Port Richey, Florida
I ride: 2005 Scion XB 2005 Suzuki GZ250 2006 H-D Street Glide
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 Re: Chain life
I replaced my OEM chain at 10K miles. I cut the old one off with bolt cutters and replaced it with an o-ring that has a master link. The master link type chain doesn't require removal of the rear wheel nor specialty chain breaker tools. I soaked the new chain in oil for an hour or so before installation. Easy! 
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| Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:45 pm |
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blaine
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:39 pm Posts: 785 Location: pei canada
I ride: 1999 gz250 modified.SOLD. 1998 Suzuki esteem wagon
1990 kawasaki 454 LTD
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 Re: Chain life
A chain should last 20000 to 30000 kms if maintained properly.You can cut the old chain off or grind the heads off the rivets.It is easier to use a removable master link in the new chain.The closed side of the circlip must face direction of rotation.
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Last edited by blaine on Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Yan
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:51 pm Posts: 10 Location: Kanata, ON
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 Re: Chain life
Great, thanks a lot! And how much a new chain with removable master link would cost?
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| Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:49 pm |
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blaine
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:39 pm Posts: 785 Location: pei canada
I ride: 1999 gz250 modified.SOLD. 1998 Suzuki esteem wagon
1990 kawasaki 454 LTD
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 Re: Chain life
Yan wrote: Great, thanks a lot! And how much a new chain with removable master link would cost? A new o-ring chain & master link should be around $60.00 depending were you buy it.Chain is a #520 110 link chain.
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| Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:56 pm |
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mrlmd1
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:05 pm Posts: 1111 Location: Crawfordville, Florida
I ride: '99GZ 250, '05 S50, '06 Ninja 250, '82Puch moped, bike, golfcart. sailboat, powerboat, jetski, Chevy Suburban, Saturn Vue,JohnDeere lawnmower
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 Re: Chain life
The chain at 10,000 miles should still be good if it was lubed at regular intervals - before getting a new one and putting it on, you can inspect the chain, adjust it's tension if too loose, see if it has stretched, look at the sprockets for wear, etc. Just don't go out and get a new chain because it has 10,000 miles on it. There may be other things you have to attend to first.
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| Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:57 pm |
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Yan
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:51 pm Posts: 10 Location: Kanata, ON
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 Re: Chain life
blaine wrote: Yan wrote: Great, thanks a lot! And how much a new chain with removable master link would cost? A new o-ring chain & master link should be around $60.00 depending were you buy it.Chain is a #520 110 link chain. cool, thanks!
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| Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:57 pm |
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Yan
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:51 pm Posts: 10 Location: Kanata, ON
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 Re: Chain life
mrlmd1 wrote: There may be other things you have to attend to first. such as? just getting an idea of the hidden costs of buying a used bike... Thanks!
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| Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:11 pm |
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blaine
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:39 pm Posts: 785 Location: pei canada
I ride: 1999 gz250 modified.SOLD. 1998 Suzuki esteem wagon
1990 kawasaki 454 LTD
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 Re: Chain life
One of the main things to look at would be the tires.Be sure to check dates on sidewall to see how old tires are.
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| Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:22 pm |
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Yan
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:51 pm Posts: 10 Location: Kanata, ON
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 Re: Chain life
blaine wrote: One of the main things to look at would be the tires.Be sure to check dates on sidewall to see how old tires are. and how old should they be before you have to replace them irregardless of the remaining thread?
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| Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:24 pm |
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blaine
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:39 pm Posts: 785 Location: pei canada
I ride: 1999 gz250 modified.SOLD. 1998 Suzuki esteem wagon
1990 kawasaki 454 LTD
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 Re: Chain life
Yan wrote: blaine wrote: One of the main things to look at would be the tires.Be sure to check dates on sidewall to see how old tires are. and how old should they be before you have to replace them irregardless of the remaining thread? Any tire over 5 years old should be replaced regardless of amount of thread left.By the way welcome to the forum.
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| Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:27 pm |
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Yan
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:51 pm Posts: 10 Location: Kanata, ON
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 Re: Chain life
blaine wrote: Yan wrote: blaine wrote: One of the main things to look at would be the tires.Be sure to check dates on sidewall to see how old tires are. and how old should they be before you have to replace them irregardless of the remaining thread? Any tire over 5 years old should be replaced regardless of amount of thread left.By the way welcome to the forum. Thanks!
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aboes81
Joined: Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:29 pm Posts: 5 Location: Oregon
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 Re: Chain life
Where is a good place to get a #520 110 link chain? I called my local shop and they wanted $110-$160. I found this one on eBay... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... _760wt_839
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Sarris
Joined: Fri May 25, 2007 8:16 pm Posts: 1268 Location: New Port Richey, Florida
I ride: 2005 Scion XB 2005 Suzuki GZ250 2006 H-D Street Glide
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 Re: Chain life
I get mine on eBay. That's a good price, so I say go for it. Remember, you'll have to cut the OEM chain to get it off. Good luck and welcome to the forum. 
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blaine
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:39 pm Posts: 785 Location: pei canada
I ride: 1999 gz250 modified.SOLD. 1998 Suzuki esteem wagon
1990 kawasaki 454 LTD
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Sarris wrote: I get mine on eBay. That's a good price, so I say go for it. Remember, you'll have to cut the OEM chain to get it off. Good luck and welcome to the forum.  
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| Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:50 pm |
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aboes81
Joined: Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:29 pm Posts: 5 Location: Oregon
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 Re: Chain life
Thanks for the feedback everybody. I just ordered one, I'll try to remember to post my results.
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Easy Rider
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 10:22 am Posts: 4355 Location: Champaign, Illinois
I ride: '06 GZ (Gone but not forgotten) '07 VT600C Honda Shadow '01 SLS '02 GMC Sonoma '07 Case-IH DX34 '09 Cub Cadet
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aboes81 wrote: Thanks for the feedback everybody. I just ordered one, I'll try to remember to post my results. Hope this is not too late............ In general, when changing the chain, one should ALSO change the sprockets......because old sprockets will cause the new (expensive) chain to wear a lot faster than normal. It is difficult for the untrained eye to detect sprocket wear just with a casual inspection. That then is also a good time to try out a 16T front, if you are so inclined.
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aboes81
Joined: Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:29 pm Posts: 5 Location: Oregon
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 Re: Chain life
Wow, thanks for the tip. I just got the chain in today but haven't touched it yet. I read this ( http://www.gz250bike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=317 ) post and am seriously considering the 16T mod. Where is the best place to get front and rear sprockets?
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Easy Rider
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 10:22 am Posts: 4355 Location: Champaign, Illinois
I ride: '06 GZ (Gone but not forgotten) '07 VT600C Honda Shadow '01 SLS '02 GMC Sonoma '07 Case-IH DX34 '09 Cub Cadet
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aboes81 wrote: Where is the best place to get front and rear sprockets? There isn't a lot of markup on sprockets; I just get mine from the dealer. You have to specify the 16T front since it isn't stock for the GZ. If you find someplace that has sprockets REAL cheap, they likely are aluminum alloy instead of steel. That might be alright but it never felt right to me. Only time I've ever used them was on an old beater; the sprockets probably outlived the rest of the bike !!
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:39 pm |
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blaine
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:39 pm Posts: 785 Location: pei canada
I ride: 1999 gz250 modified.SOLD. 1998 Suzuki esteem wagon
1990 kawasaki 454 LTD
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Easy Rider wrote: aboes81 wrote: Where is the best place to get front and rear sprockets? There isn't a lot of markup on sprockets; I just get mine from the dealer. You have to specify the 16T front since it isn't stock for the GZ. The SUZUKI part number for the 16t front sprocket is #27511-37200. J.T SPROCKETS.COM #JTF434.16. BIKEBANDIT.COM #A5270576 or #17866. I used the Suzuki sprocket, it is steel & relative cheap. 
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