Install a 16 Tooth Front Sprocket
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blaine
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:39 pm Posts: 785 Location: pei canada
I ride: 1999 gz250 modified.SOLD. 1998 Suzuki esteem wagon
1990 kawasaki 454 LTD
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Atlus wrote: Water Warrior wrote: Everyone is missing the key factor. After turning the adjusters counter clockwise the tire will need a good swift kick to move it forward. Then you will have lots of slack and can proceed to tighten the chain properly. Been there done that. Baha! That's what I was looking for! After a good kick forward my new sprocket is installed and ready to go. I look forward to testing it tomorrow. Haha when in doubt, kick it. Thanks everybody for the responses, lord knows I learned everything about my bike thanks to these forums and community.  Good luck,hope you like the 16t sprocket! 
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| Sat May 01, 2010 9:40 pm |
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Atlus
Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:27 am Posts: 40 Location: Santa Cruz
I ride: 2003 gz250 (just got it!) 1994 Mustang v6
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Just took it out for a spin today, not only was it absolutely gorgeous out but my god did that sprocket make a difference! I tried it out on side streets, freeway, and hills and loved every bit of it. As a a pretty lite guy (around 140) it's a world of improvement. Thanks everybody for the help!
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blaine
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:39 pm Posts: 785 Location: pei canada
I ride: 1999 gz250 modified.SOLD. 1998 Suzuki esteem wagon
1990 kawasaki 454 LTD
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Atlus wrote: Just took it out for a spin today, not only was it absolutely gorgeous out but my god did that sprocket make a difference! I tried it out on side streets, freeway, and hills and loved every bit of it. As a a pretty lite guy (around 140) it's a world of improvement. Thanks everybody for the help! That was my impression to.I weight about the same as you do.Glad you like it!
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| Sun May 02, 2010 10:58 pm |
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Easy Rider
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 10:22 am Posts: 4355 Location: Champaign, Illinois
I ride: '06 GZ (Gone but not forgotten) '07 VT600C Honda Shadow '01 SLS '02 GMC Sonoma '07 Case-IH DX34 '09 Cub Cadet
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Atlus wrote: loved every bit of it. Yea !!! But then we KNEW you would. You likely will find that it limits your top speed and hill climbing ability a bit but I found that to be an acceptable trade-off.
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| Sun May 02, 2010 11:00 pm |
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EddieSC
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 12:09 am Posts: 1 Location: Pleasant Grove AL
I ride: 2002 GZ250
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Awesome. I've been looking to get a bit more out of my bike (Totally stock at the moment) and I think this may be the first thing I try.
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| Sat May 08, 2010 12:15 am |
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blaine
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:39 pm Posts: 785 Location: pei canada
I ride: 1999 gz250 modified.SOLD. 1998 Suzuki esteem wagon
1990 kawasaki 454 LTD
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welcome to the fourm.try the 16t,not a big deal to change back if you don't like it.
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| Sat May 08, 2010 6:30 am |
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brucea
Joined: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:35 pm Posts: 3 Location: Kentucky
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I bought two sockets from http://www.cheapcycleparts.comThey always have reasonable prices and fast service. They were showing two 16 tooth sockets available, and I was not sure which one to get, so I bought one of each. When they arrived, they are the same socket, just from different suppliers. So, if you order from that site, just buy the less expensive one. Your installation guide was awesome, and I did it myself in less than 40 minutes.
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| Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:46 pm |
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nautec
Joined: Tue May 11, 2010 2:49 pm Posts: 10 Location: Tucson
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I did mine pretty quick on Friday and finally got to ride it today. I really do like it since it feels a lot more "calm" at 55-60 mph. One thing I noticed is there is a fast winding noise from the bike. Kinda sounds like a fast spinning metal wheel. I guess it is from not having those rubber rings on both sides of the sprocket. Bought mine from BikeBandit.com for $22 and came in pretty quick. Had to go to Sears to get a 30mm socket.
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| Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:12 pm |
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blaine
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:39 pm Posts: 785 Location: pei canada
I ride: 1999 gz250 modified.SOLD. 1998 Suzuki esteem wagon
1990 kawasaki 454 LTD
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The noise you are hearing is the chain mating to the new sprocket and will disappear in a few miles. 
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| Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:07 pm |
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Easy Rider
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 10:22 am Posts: 4355 Location: Champaign, Illinois
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blaine wrote: The noise you are hearing is the chain mating to the new sprocket and will disappear in a few miles.  Most likely that Blaine is absolutely right but......just to be sure, I think I'd take the front sprocket cover off one more time and make sure that everything is lined up properly. If you didn't get the new sprocket all the way on (if that is even possible), it might be scraping the side of the chain or rubbing on the cover. Highly unlikely, I think, but I wouldn't want to take the chance. Having the chain adjusted too tight might make it noisy too. You did re-check for proper slack after hooking it all back up......right ??
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| Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:52 pm |
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nautec
Joined: Tue May 11, 2010 2:49 pm Posts: 10 Location: Tucson
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I readjusted the windshield and I think that is causing a lot of noise I noticed. I am going to return the windshield back to the original position and see how it goes. It is possible that the chain is a lot snugger after I installed the sprocket so I might try loosening it just a bit.
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| Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:16 am |
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alantf
Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:00 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Tenerife (Spain)
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nautec wrote: It is possible that the chain is a lot snugger after I installed the sprocket This suggests that you did not check the chain tension after doing the job.  Not a good thing . 
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| Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:27 am |
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Easy Rider
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 10:22 am Posts: 4355 Location: Champaign, Illinois
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nautec wrote: It is possible that the chain is a lot snugger after I installed the sprocket so I might try loosening it just a bit. Not only possible but highly likely.......IF you didn't loosen the rear axle during the sprocket install. The extra tooth will automatically make it tighter.
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| Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:37 am |
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nautec
Joined: Tue May 11, 2010 2:49 pm Posts: 10 Location: Tucson
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I did measure it. Before the sprocket change, the chain gave around 13mm. After I put it on, it will only give around 5mm and not any more. So it was snugger than original. I'm fairly confident that all the noise is really coming from my improperly placed windshield. That's what I think all the noise is really coming from with my full face helmet on. This noise only happens above 45 mph.
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| Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:09 pm |
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Easy Rider
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 10:22 am Posts: 4355 Location: Champaign, Illinois
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nautec wrote: After I put it on, it will only give around 5mm and not any more.
That's what I think all the noise is really coming from with my full face helmet on. This noise only happens above 45 mph. OK, whole different ball game then BUT....5 "MM" slack in the chain amounts to about none at all. I don't think that's within spec. even. Did you turn the back wheel to see if that was the tightest point ?? You can prove it once and for all by riding just once, out of traffic, with the helmet OFF. It is usually pretty easy to tell the difference between wind noise and chain noise. I think it's likely that your chain is too tight; noise or no.
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| Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:20 pm |
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Water Warrior
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:28 pm Posts: 3185 Location: Squamish, BC, Canada
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Ouch, 5 mm is way too snug. Your bike is in peril. Fix it or it will cost you.
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cayuse
Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 12:41 pm Posts: 77 Location: Abbotsford, BC
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Personally, I think 5mm is very snug. Really not 'slack'. But you know what? That's what Suzuki says is the allowable minimum. Check p52 of the manual. 
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blaine
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:39 pm Posts: 785 Location: pei canada
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cayuse wrote: Personally, I think 5mm is very snug. Really not 'slack'. But you know what? That's what Suzuki says is the allowable minimum. Check p52 of the manual.  You are right,BUT--The chain would be much tighter than that when you are on the bike,or rebounding off bumps,or not at the tightest point of the chain.Also the chain had to be way out of adjustment to ever get the 16t sprocket on without loosing the rear wheel,also not good.Some serious maintenance needs to be followed before someone gets hurt.  Don't mean to rant,but I am a stickler for maintenance. 
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aboes81
Joined: Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:29 pm Posts: 5 Location: Oregon
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Hello, I recently got the 16T sprocket and when I went install it I noticed the missing rubber gaskets of the OEM one. The problem is that the nut (30mm one) that secures the sprocket doesn't seem to be able to secure the sprocket because it's thinner. Am I missing something?
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Easy Rider
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 10:22 am Posts: 4355 Location: Champaign, Illinois
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aboes81 wrote: Am I missing something? Probably not. You may need a shorter bolt......or an added washer, which I really wouldn't recommend, long term.
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blaine
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:39 pm Posts: 785 Location: pei canada
I ride: 1999 gz250 modified.SOLD. 1998 Suzuki esteem wagon
1990 kawasaki 454 LTD
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aboes81 wrote: Hello, I recently got the 16T sprocket and when I went install it I noticed the missing rubber gaskets of the OEM one. The problem is that the nut (30mm one) that secures the sprocket doesn't seem to be able to secure the sprocket because it's thinner. Am I missing something? The sprocket should slide on to the splines snugly even with out the nut.Make sure you have it on the correct way,than the lock washer.The new sprocket is a little thinner without the rubber hub,It will still tighten. 
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aboes81
Joined: Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:29 pm Posts: 5 Location: Oregon
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It tightened fine. I got it on and took it for a ride. The new sprocket makes a very noticeable difference. My favorite part is how much smoother the top end is. I can cruise at 65-70 comfortably whereas before the vibrations for the engine made me uncomfortable.
The only downside is that I always have a goofy grin on my face.
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Easy Rider
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 10:22 am Posts: 4355 Location: Champaign, Illinois
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aboes81 wrote: It tightened fine. So......if it tightened on the sprocket solidly.....then what was point of the original question ??? "The problem is that the nut (30mm one) that secures the sprocket doesn't seem to be able to secure the sprocket because it's thinner." I'm confused.....but that's not unusual. 
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| Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:35 pm |
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nautec
Joined: Tue May 11, 2010 2:49 pm Posts: 10 Location: Tucson
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Just an update on my sprocket experience. I have noticed a gas mileage increase in my everyday commute. Went from 67 mpg average to 73 mpg average. Cool beans!
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| Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:26 pm |
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Water Warrior
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:28 pm Posts: 3185 Location: Squamish, BC, Canada
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The rubber gasket on the OEM sprocket is usually there to control noise but I doubt there is a difference in real world riding. I read some where that all Japanese bikes use OEM sprockets made by Sunstar. This could be their way of signifying OEM from aftermarket supplied sprockets.
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