Yet another Canadian Motorcycle Newbie

rbsteve · 07-09-2009, 11:03 PM

Hi Everyone,

I have been browsing your forums for the past week, since I just bought myself a used 2000 GZ 250. I have a few minor repairs to perform, and in my experience with cars, you can't beat a good online forum for all the tips and tricks you need.

So a little about myself. I am new to motorcycling this year. It is something I have always wanted to get into, and now that I am 25, I think I can do it responsibly without killing myself! I really don't like those crotch rocket sports bikes, and I am not in my 40s in the midst of a mid-life crisis, so a harley or bmw is out of the question lol. So that left me with cruisers. As soon as I sat on a gz 250, I was surprised how easy to manage and comfortable it was, especially since I am 6'4". With only a couple of minor adjustments to the pedals and handlebars, it is like sitting on a lazy boy. Also Quebec has ridiculous rules about bikes 400cc and up... just to pay the plates for a year can cost over 1000$. Smaller engine the better up here.

So expect to see a few more posts by me within the coming days as I attempt to change my front brake pads, gear shift lever, foot pegs and brake light switch. They seem like fairly simple jobs, and I have plenty of experience working on cars, but you never know when you can get stuck.

One question I do have, do these bikes take regular gas (87 octane) or super (91-94)? I ask because I don't have the owners manual, and there is no sticker on the tank.

Thanks

-Steve

Water Warrior 2 · 07-10-2009, 02:08 AM

Hi Steve. Always glad to have a new rider join us. Gas is regular unleaded for the bikes diet. Question for you. Plates are that expensive but also include insurance I hope ? Same in B.C. We have the wonderful Guvmint ins. to pay for which is almost criminal. You will have a lot of fun with a GZ and soon realize it is one of the best first bikes for a newbie. Have you taken any riders training ? It is well worth your time and money. Also consider picking up a copy of "Proficient Motorcycling" at a book store, it is well worth the read and just chalk full of information for any rider regardless of experience. Ride safe Steve.

alantf · 07-10-2009, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Water Warrior

Gas is regular unleaded

Welcome to the forum.

The GZ also seems to enjoy the occasional treat of carb cleaner/fuel additive in the tank. Ask the American guys for recommendations, as we get different stuff over here, so I can't give you first hand information. :2tup:

Easy Rider · 07-10-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rbsteve

One question I do have, do these bikes take regular gas (87 octane) or super (91-94)? I ask because I don't have the owners manual, and there is no sticker on the tank.

Regular 87. There is an owners manual available for download right here!

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=27

Hope you enjoy your little beast.
Do you know how old the tires are ??

rbsteve · 07-11-2009, 02:44 PM

Thanks for the manual hookup!

My first fill up last week was the super94 and petro-canada. It sounds fine, but I will use regular from now on.

The previous owner changed both tires before he sold it. The tread is nice and deep, and there is no cracking on the side walls. And they have that new tire smell!

Yes the registration costs also includes the minimum insurance required. But for the civil liability, theft and all that stuff, you still need additional insurance. Here in Quebec, they say that since statistically motorcyclists have the most accidents, they should pay more. So where it costs about 200$ to register a car for the year, it costs 340$ a year to register a gz 250. Anything 400cc and up is 550$/year, unless it is a "supersport", then its 1050$ a year. And apparently it is going to increase again next year.

I did follow a driver's ed course for motorcycling, even redoing some of the in class lessons learning about roadsigns again lol. The closed track lessons though were the most useful. The hardest part to riding a motorcycle is all the slow speed maneuvers you need to master. The classes really gave me the correct techniques to use and now I really completely comfortable with them. Classes are also mandatory in Quebec. Aren't they everywhere?

burkbuilds · 07-12-2009, 02:46 PM

Unfortunately the classes are NOT mandatory everywhere, at least not in the "states" but I don't think you'll find many experienced riders that wouldn't recommend them especially to new riders but even for more experienced riders, we all seem to "forget" things over time.

Welcome to the forum, hope you get a lot out of it!

Jere · 07-13-2009, 11:12 AM

The classes aren't mandatory in Ontario.

Just for your own curiosity, here are the costs for my 1999 GZ250 (purchased 09-Jun-2009):

Purchase (private sale): $1900
Tax (PST @8%): $120 (based on $1500 value)
Plate: $26
Registration: $20
Safety certificate: $46 or so.
Insurance: $950/year. Will drop to $750 after completion of Gearing Up training course. FYI, I'm a 30 male, married, first time motorcycle insuree.

Other: Gearing Up Motorcycle Training: $425.

(all canadian funds)

bonehead · 07-13-2009, 11:22 AM

Looks to me that you have to be rich to ride a bike in Canada. Ins. in TX. on mine is 110 a year, 14.50 inspection, and 46.00 for the plate.

Jere · 07-13-2009, 11:38 AM

Insurance costs in Canada, Ontario particularly, are insane.

Water Warrior 2 · 07-13-2009, 06:57 PM

Jere, the insurance cost is totally out of this world. Yes I know it is the GWN but I think you need to check with another agent. Some one must have made a mistake. B.C. has guvmint insurance and we don't get bent over quite that far on larger displacement bikes.

07-09-2009, 11:03 PM	#1
rbsteve Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Posts: 4	Yet another Canadian Motorcycle Newbie Hi Everyone, I have been browsing your forums for the past week, since I just bought myself a used 2000 GZ 250. I have a few minor repairs to perform, and in my experience with cars, you can't beat a good online forum for all the tips and tricks you need. So a little about myself. I am new to motorcycling this year. It is something I have always wanted to get into, and now that I am 25, I think I can do it responsibly without killing myself! I really don't like those crotch rocket sports bikes, and I am not in my 40s in the midst of a mid-life crisis, so a harley or bmw is out of the question lol. So that left me with cruisers. As soon as I sat on a gz 250, I was surprised how easy to manage and comfortable it was, especially since I am 6'4". With only a couple of minor adjustments to the pedals and handlebars, it is like sitting on a lazy boy. Also Quebec has ridiculous rules about bikes 400cc and up... just to pay the plates for a year can cost over 1000$. Smaller engine the better up here. So expect to see a few more posts by me within the coming days as I attempt to change my front brake pads, gear shift lever, foot pegs and brake light switch. They seem like fairly simple jobs, and I have plenty of experience working on cars, but you never know when you can get stuck. One question I do have, do these bikes take regular gas (87 octane) or super (91-94)? I ask because I don't have the owners manual, and there is no sticker on the tank. Thanks -Steve Login or Register to Remove Ads
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07-10-2009, 02:08 AM	#2
Water Warrior 2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Squamish B.C Canada Posts: 11,409	Re: Yet another Canadian Motorcycle Newbie Hi Steve. Always glad to have a new rider join us. Gas is regular unleaded for the bikes diet. Question for you. Plates are that expensive but also include insurance I hope ? Same in B.C. We have the wonderful Guvmint ins. to pay for which is almost criminal. You will have a lot of fun with a GZ and soon realize it is one of the best first bikes for a newbie. Have you taken any riders training ? It is well worth your time and money. Also consider picking up a copy of "Proficient Motorcycling" at a book store, it is well worth the read and just chalk full of information for any rider regardless of experience. Ride safe Steve.
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07-11-2009, 02:44 PM	#5
rbsteve Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Posts: 4	Re: Yet another Canadian Motorcycle Newbie Thanks for the manual hookup! My first fill up last week was the super94 and petro-canada. It sounds fine, but I will use regular from now on. The previous owner changed both tires before he sold it. The tread is nice and deep, and there is no cracking on the side walls. And they have that new tire smell! Yes the registration costs also includes the minimum insurance required. But for the civil liability, theft and all that stuff, you still need additional insurance. Here in Quebec, they say that since statistically motorcyclists have the most accidents, they should pay more. So where it costs about 200$ to register a car for the year, it costs 340$ a year to register a gz 250. Anything 400cc and up is 550$/year, unless it is a "supersport", then its 1050$ a year. And apparently it is going to increase again next year. I did follow a driver's ed course for motorcycling, even redoing some of the in class lessons learning about roadsigns again lol. The closed track lessons though were the most useful. The hardest part to riding a motorcycle is all the slow speed maneuvers you need to master. The classes really gave me the correct techniques to use and now I really completely comfortable with them. Classes are also mandatory in Quebec. Aren't they everywhere? Login or Register to Remove Ads
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07-12-2009, 02:46 PM	#6
burkbuilds Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shannon, Georgia Posts: 1,268	Re: Yet another Canadian Motorcycle Newbie Unfortunately the classes are NOT mandatory everywhere, at least not in the "states" but I don't think you'll find many experienced riders that wouldn't recommend them especially to new riders but even for more experienced riders, we all seem to "forget" things over time. Welcome to the forum, hope you get a lot out of it!
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07-13-2009, 11:12 AM	#7
Jere Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 42	Re: Yet another Canadian Motorcycle Newbie The classes aren't mandatory in Ontario. Just for your own curiosity, here are the costs for my 1999 GZ250 (purchased 09-Jun-2009): Purchase (private sale): $1900 Tax (PST @8%): $120 (based on $1500 value) Plate: $26 Registration: $20 Safety certificate: $46 or so. Insurance: $950/year. Will drop to $750 after completion of Gearing Up training course. FYI, I'm a 30 male, married, first time motorcycle insuree. Other: Gearing Up Motorcycle Training: $425. (all canadian funds)
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07-13-2009, 11:22 AM	#8
bonehead Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: elgin,tx Posts: 907	Re: Yet another Canadian Motorcycle Newbie Looks to me that you have to be rich to ride a bike in Canada. Ins. in TX. on mine is 110 a year, 14.50 inspection, and 46.00 for the plate. __________________ Standing with the PGR until they stand for me.
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07-13-2009, 11:38 AM	#9
Jere Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 42	Re: Yet another Canadian Motorcycle Newbie Insurance costs in Canada, Ontario particularly, are insane.
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07-13-2009, 06:57 PM	#10
Water Warrior 2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Squamish B.C Canada Posts: 11,409	Re: Yet another Canadian Motorcycle Newbie Jere, the insurance cost is totally out of this world. Yes I know it is the GWN but I think you need to check with another agent. Some one must have made a mistake. B.C. has guvmint insurance and we don't get bent over quite that far on larger displacement bikes.
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