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Old 07-19-2009, 02:07 PM   #1
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Uneven power when starting and from 35-45mph

Hi all, I just bought a used GZ. I knew from the get-go that it had a crack in the exhaust, just before the megaphone where the pipes converge. I bought a new-to-me exhaust (used off ebay) and I'm waiting for it to come in.

My problems are two-fold and may or may not be related. I sometimes lose power in 1st and 2nd gears (occurs even after the bike warms up). The bike starts moving then putters out no matter how much twist I give the throttle. If I lay off a bit, I can usually keep it from stalling and eventually coax it up to where I can shift to 3rd. It's intermittent; some of the time I can twist and the little engine roars in 1st and 2nd, no problem.

Also, around 35mph up until 45mph, if I cruise in 3rd or 4th, I get really uneven power. The speed stays relatively constant, but I can feel the bike jerking under me. Below 35mph, it will cruise contentedly in 3rd or 4th. Above 45mph, it gets happy and cruises without complaint in 4th or 5th.

I was thinking maybe the exhaust had something to do with it, so I'm waiting for the new pipe and hoping it will fix the problem. In the meantime, has anyone experienced these problems and do you have any recommendations for diagnosis and fixes?

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Old 07-19-2009, 10:58 PM   #2
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Re: Uneven power when starting and from 35-45mph

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I was thinking maybe the exhaust had something to do with it, so I'm waiting for the new pipe and hoping it will fix the problem. In the meantime, has anyone experienced these problems and do you have any recommendations for diagnosis and fixes?
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First, are you sure there is really a crack in the exhaust and not just the "normal, on purpose" drain hole that resides in about that position ?? :shocked:

I doubt that is causing your other problem anyway.
Have you run any carb cleaner through it?
Have you checked the air filter?
Might want to inspect the carb boots and vacume hose for loose/leaks.
Also, the cap on the carb drain hose is necessary; you can't just leave it off.

And, lastly, you might want to drain the float bowl AND the tank as you might have some water or other "crud" in the bottom of the tank.
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Old 07-20-2009, 12:15 AM   #3
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Re: Uneven power when starting and from 35-45mph

Yikes! No's all around. What does the drain hole in the pipe look like? I may have bought a new exhaust for nothing!

The rest I can figure out with a little googling, thanks!
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Yikes! No's all around. What does the drain hole in the pipe look like?
You should do all that other stuff before you start taking anything apart (like the carb).
It is also possible that you are describing a slipping clutch but the description is a little off for that.

The drain hole is about 1/8 inch, I think. Easiest way to find it is to start the bike and idle just long enough that the middle of the muffler starts feeling warm. Then shut it off and wait. A drop or 2 of water should drain out.......the cooler the outside temp. the more water you will see.

OR you can use a mirror. The drain hole will probably appear as a rust spot about the size of a dime......with the hole in the middle.

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P.S. Yes, you can fit a small fuel filter in the line. Get one that has a paper or ceramic filter (not screen). It fits in the middle of the rubber line if you cut about 1/2 inch of hose OUT. You should get some spring clamps to secure it; they don't usually come with the filter. That would be a good time to drain the tank and floats too. Plan ahead; Sunday is not the best time to install the filter......just incase you need to go get a new piece of hose !!!
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Re: Uneven power when starting and from 35-45mph

Ah ok then this is definitely a crack. I can fit two fingers into it.

Thanks for the info, Easy!
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Ah ok then this is definitely a crack. I can fit two fingers into it.
If it is that big, it might be affecting your performance a bit......but not likely that is the whole story.
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Re: Uneven power when starting and from 35-45mph

I'm with Easy on that, clean out the fuel system first check air filter and spark plugs are cheap and easy to install but you definitely don't want to leave that old exhaust on there with that big of a crack you might end up burning your valves if you do then it's headache time!
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Re: Uneven power when starting and from 35-45mph

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WOW.....I leave town for a few days and all KINDS of new members show up !!
Some aren't too bad either.[/quote:67rlngvv]

No no no Patrick. They are all good until they prove themselves otherwise. We do have a good group of folks on the forum. New and old have to suck it up and accept the ocassional criticism but overall this is one of the best forums. We don't even have a GZ in the stall anymore but I like being here. How many forums are that comfy ??
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WOW.....I leave town for a few days and all KINDS of new members show up !!
Some aren't too bad either.[/quote:2graf2qp]

As opposed to the OLD members.....????? :neener:

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